Socrates Stories

Socrates and Forgiveness

This is the text of a ten-minute talk I gave about Socrates to an audience of people who were mostly new to philosophy…

My daughter, Poppy, is six years old. She loves Greek mythology. She’s Nova Scotia’s leading expert on Hercules and she loves Wonder Woman – an Amazonian princess created by Zeus. Poppy also loves Greek philosophy.

While we were walking round town, or on the bus, she used to constantly pull my sleeve saying “Daddy, tell me stories!” I don’t read fiction; I’ve only read about four novels in my entire life. So the only stories I knew were about Greek philosophy. And this is one of them…

A long, long, time ago, almost two and a half thousand years ago, a very wise man lived in the city of Athens. His name was Socrates and some people say he was the wisest man who ever lived. He said he was just a “philosopher”, though. That word means someone who loves wisdom but isn’t wise yet himself. Philosophers are always seeking wisdom, like children, they’re always asking questions…

But Socrates wasn’t always a philosopher. His father, Sophroniscus, was a stonemason and sculptor who helped to build a famous temple called the Parthenon, high up on a hill in Athens, in a place called the Acropolis. When he was a young boy, his father taught Socrates how to cut stone to make buildings and beautiful statues. That’s what he did for a living for many years and he became really good at it. Some people say he made a famous statue of three beautiful goddesses called The Three Graces, which stood at the entrance to the Acropolis.

Socrates tried really hard to make his statues perfect. He wanted them to physically embody wisdom and virtue. He thought that would be the most beautiful and inspiring thing anyone could possibly create. He tried and tried but he was never happy with the results. He always felt something was missing. So he went to the older and more experienced sculptors, seeking their advice. He was disappointed, though.

They made very beautiful statues depicting virtues like wisdom, justice, courage, and self-discipline However they couldn’t really explain what these qualities were or where to learn them. Socrates said they had become like blocks of stone themselves: blockheads, lacking wisdom and self-awareness. He realised they were looking too much at the outside, at statues, rather than looking deep inside themselves. They were experts at creating the appearance of virtue but they didn’t really embody it in their own lives.

Then Socrates had a great idea. He did something that I’ve seen many therapy clients do over the years, and it often dramatically improves their lives… He quit his job. He put down his tools and from that day forward he stopped sculpting stone and began sculpting himself instead, his own mind, his character, trying to develop wisdom and virtue. He wanted to make himself beautiful rather than making beautiful statues. Everyone thought this was hilarious because Socrates was not very beautiful to look at. He had a big round belly and a snub-nose and his student Plato said he looked like a satyr, which is a cross between a man and a goat! [Actually, a man and a horse in ancient Greece.]  It’s not a compliment. Socrates laughed back at them, though, and said that true beauty comes from within, from our character. He liked to say that if there was a beauty contest between him and the people laughing at him then he should be the winner because his character was much more beautiful than theirs. His friends weren’t convinced; they weren’t sure if he was joking or serious.

Anyway he gave up being a sculptor and instead of doing his father’s job he decided to switch to doing his mother’s job instead. Now, Socrates’ mother was a midwife. But instead of helping pregnant women give birth to their babies… he wanted to become a midwife for wisdom… to help men and women alike to give birth to the ideas inside them, so that they could share them with other people, talk about them, and try to learn the truth about them. We call that “Socratic questioning”.

Socrates helped people to give birth to their ideas by asking them lots of really difficult questions about what it means to be wise and good. He asked soldiers “What does it really mean to be brave?”, he asked politicians “What is justice?”, and he asked teachers “What is the essence of wisdom?” He asked lots of questions but he always pretended he didn’t know the answers. That’s called Socratic irony – the word “irony” actually means feigned ignorance. He used to say “I know only that I know nothing”, pleading ignorance, although he was much wiser than the people to whom he was talking. If you ask Poppy, she’ll explain that’s the secret of Socrates’ wisdom. He used to ask lots of questions, and then he’d listen really carefully to the answers people gave. That’s how he became the wisest man in history.

However, sometimes when you ask too many difficult questions to powerful and important people they get upset. That’s what happened to Socrates. He rocked the boat and they came after him. Two men called Anytus and Meletus [and perhaps a third called Lycon] put together a trumped up charge of impiety and corrupting the youth. Socrates was found guilty and executed, forced to drink hemlock. But nearly two and a half thousand years later, we still remember the things he said…

Once, Socrates asked his friends “what is justice?” and it led to a really long and really famous conversation, which was described in Plato’s book The Republic. One of Socrates’ companions said justice is helping your friends and harming your enemies. Even in ancient Greece that was a popular idea – it’s the worldview of Donald Trump and countless other politicians, good guys versus bad guys. It makes sense. Help your friends; harm your enemies… Socrates said that was wrong, though. He said justice consists in helping your friends and helping your enemies. Everyone thought he was crazy.

So this was his argument… Wisdom is the most important thing in life. It’s much more valuable than material possessions. Why? Well, for example, wealth is only as good as the use we make of it. In the hands of a fool, money is used foolishly. In the hands of a wise man, money can be used wisely. So wealth is neither good nor bad in itself, what matters is the use we make of it. And to help someone is to do them good. So Socrates argued that if we really wanted to help people we would educate them and lead them toward wisdom rather than just giving them money, or other external things. And if our enemies genuinely become wise then they’ll cease to be our enemies and become our friends instead. So justice should consist in helping, or educating, both our friends and our enemies. Maybe that seems idealistic but I agree with Socrates.

So this is my take home message… It may surprise you, but the main lesson I learned from Socrates was forgiveness. We blame people when we don’t understand them. To understand all is to forgive all. And so the closer we get to wisdom, I believe, the more forgiving we become. Socrates even forgave Anytus and Meletus the two men who had him executed. Indeed, he said something truly remarkable at his trial: “Anytus and Meletus can kill me but they cannot harm me.” That’s how firmly he believed that the most important thing in life is our moral character, the one thing that nobody can ever take away from you unless you let them. So I hope that now you all know as much about Socratic wisdom as Poppy does.

18 replies on “Socrates and Forgiveness”

This is really beautiful. My kids are grown but I wish I would have thought of this way of talking to them when they were little. I’m a fan of 50’s TV as compared to modern day because the old programs came with a moral lesson and it was couched in the story line. Very effective.
Would be a great idea for a book….Stoic stories for Children. Your daughter is a lucky little girl.

Brilliant Donald. “Philosophers are always seeking wisdom, like children, they’re always asking questions…” – indeed, why stop asking questions when you grow up 🙂

Socrates believed that what he knows is that he knows nothing and that is why he kept on asking questions
The children also believe that they know nothing unlike the grown ups who think they know everything while in fact they know the least

A wonderful way to start my weekend, great article. It has really made me consider why I am at odds with a few people in my life and how better to handle future “upsets”.

Yes, I believe so. If you find that impossible to imagine, please just take a couple of minutes out of your day and watch this clip of Malala, the young girl who was shot in the head and left for dead by the Taliban, discussing the value she places on her ability to forgive her attackers.

“Explain it to me like I was a 2 yr old..” is one of Denzel Washington’s greatest lines & is embodied in this excellent mini course on Socrates. Thank you Donald for sharing your wisdom.

Very well written article. But I have one thing to say. Goodness and Forgiveness are for weak and easy going people . Such virtues are not shown by powerful people. Powerful people only pretend to be good and forgive full. People who are successful and powerful , they have reached that position because of their manipulative evilness , not for their virtues.

Well, Socrates has a good rebuttal of that view in Plato’s Republic. Also, it depends how you define “powerful”. If you mean being wealthy, etc., then perhaps that’s at least a half-truth but Socrates famously argued that true wealth comes from within, and shouldn’t be judged by how much money we have in the bank, and I think he’d make the same distinction when it comes to the sort of power you seem to be talking about. President Trump, on paper, is one of the most powerful men in the world right now but I’m fairly certain that Socrates would consider him a very weak man, as indeed many of his critics do. (And I’m sure we could say the same thing about other US politicians if they happened to be in power.)

Sir , what about evil people we face in our daily life. Whose only aim is to harm and take advantage of our tolerance and forgiveness . It is very difficult to control oneself in such situations. What if a person is being threatened and harassed by people from powerful political community. How would stoicism help in facing such situations ? Aren’t all this philosophical thinking only provides us with mental solace and nothing more.

Well there’s no reason why we should allow others to take advantage of our forgiveness. Those two things don’t necessarily go together. Stoicism, in my view, could offer a great deal of help to someone in that situation, surely far too much to summarize here in a couple of sentences. Philosophy can provide mental solace but it can also help us to overcome fears and manage our anger and desire, so that we can think more clearly, confront situations, and take action rationally in order to solve practical external problems. Stoicism does not teach passivity and, in fact, if we want to take action in the world we’re best to learn how to do so with mental calm and clarity.

Matthew 22:36. Interesting how one who pursues truth and wisdom as their life’s goal parallels the teachings of Jesus. God’s presence is known to those who seek the truth, whether having been formally introduced or not.

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